"That We May Live Peaceable Lives"

Our govenment, and much of the world, is currently under the control of a confederacy of murderous conspiracies who intend to rule the world with absolute power, tyranny, and godlessness. They intend to slaughter the vast majority of the world's population, particularly God's Children, Jews and Christians, and much of the remainder (typical figures we have heard from Jacques Cousteau and others) are 90% of the world's population; and all the remainder as their slaves. Psalm 2 and many other Bible Prophecies are being remarkably fulfilled in them; in fact it is very apparent that the "Great Tribulation," and the "Day of the Lord" which the Lord Jesus Christ has warned us of, are just around the corner, with these conspiracies being, or evolving into, the spearhead.  "That we may live peaceable lives"  (1 Timothy 2:2) is just about at an end.

On the newsgroups one fellow posted an excerpt from one of these conspirators, who appears to be our next "president," supported by his fellows throughout Congress and the Media:

>...But, the Supreme Court never ventured into the issues of
>redistribution of
wealth, and of more basic issues such as political
>and economic justice in
the society. To that extent, as radical as I
>think people try to characterize
the Warren Court, it wasn’t that
>radical. It didn’t break free from the
essential constraints that were
>placed by the Founding Fathers in the

Are you listening, here?  This is the worst and most significant thing he is saying in this
quotation (which is the main tenet of "democracy" --- see below). Obama is here promising
to put an end to the United States of America
: This is a clear act of Treason!

> at least as its been interpreted and Warren Court interpreted
in the same way, that
>generally the Constitution is a charter of negative

Absolutely!!! The point!  The Constitution is directed against GOVERNMENT liberties!  ---  this
is the REAL Republican Position! (the people into whose hands the current "Republican Party" are
the opposite of Republican.  Do not continue to blame Republicans for what they are doing) ---
to restrict and retain GOVERNMENT to its rightful and essential duties, and NO MORE! That is why it's

so important; and that is the reason, 
humanly speaking, that we have had 200 years of American Liberty!  

And Obama is here stating his intention of destroying that American Liberty forever! The same thing Bush
was in the process of doing, and Clinton before him . . . Read on, for pete's sake!  
If you don't care what he's doing to you, PLEASE at least care about what he's going to do to our
children! And John McCain is in the same club!  Did you not hear him gleefully claim to be
a close friend of Kissinger?  (and of course, all the hideous monstrous conspiracies that go with that).  
But there IS a choice!

> Says what the states can’t do to you . Says what the federal
>can’t do to you

>but it doesn’t say what the federal government or

>state government must do on your behalf, and that hasn’t shifted

This crap is an absolute mockery of our freedom giving Constitution.  Of course it hasn't shifted!  That is its whole point!
The Constitution, and the late Republican philosophy behind it, are THE mechanism by which God gave us our past 200
years of American liberty.

Do any of you know what fire is?  You're seeing it in Obama.  Fire is good, and necessary AS LONG IS IT IS
CONTAINED IN THE FURNACE!  (This, again, is the Republican position: and the point of the Constitution).  The wisest man
who ever lived commented on fire, in the same way.  Once that fire gets out of the furnace, and going up our walls, it will destroy
us!!!  The Constitution emphatically states that ANY POWER NOT SPECIFICALLY GRANTED TO THE FEDS (meddling
in public schools, "Homeland Security," FEMA, "Federal Reserve,"  in fact the entire "Code of Federal Regulations" . . .) SHALL

THAT is why we have had American freedom.  And when we allow Obama and his murderous thugs (911, eg) to take it away
from us, we have lost America, which is what he has obviously been for long before anyone thought of him for president.
Remember his well published refusal to pledge allegiance? A man talking like this is committing open TREASON against America.

>one of
the, I think, the tragedies of the civil rights movement was
>because the
civil rights movement became so court focused I think
>there was a tendency to
lose track of the political and community
>organizing and activities on the
ground that are able to put together
>the actual coalitions of powers through
which you bring about
>REDISTRIBUTIVE change. In some ways we still suffer
from that.

Thank you to Snow, who put a lot of work into providing us with this, from YouTube.

And he (Snow) commented

>The only reason a Christian would vote for Obama is to prove they worship
money as God!
   [Here I must disagree.  The main reason is that they have been deceived --- made possible by decades of deliberate destruction of American
    youth in government controlled schools.]

>Mat 7:15  Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's
but inwardly they are ravening wolves.


And my reply was:

Good post, I think, Snow.

I also voted for Chuck Baldwin, as I think most Christians would have, and most
real Republicans, also.

     [Can you tell me what a Republican is?  Count, on a few of your fingers, how many "Americans" can]

"DEMOCRAT" believes in "rule by the people:" or rather, "mob rule."  The
philosophy that right and wrong are up for vote.  That a mob has the
intellectual or the moral qualifications to decide our destinies and the
destinies of our children.  

     [It is therefore the anti-Christian position, as well as the anti-liberty position]

God says "Cursed be the man that trusteth in man;" and since democracy is
exactly that (trust in man) . . . , and modern "republicanism" EVEN MORE
SO, it's no problem to conclude the obvious reason America appears nowhere in
Bible Prophecy --- except as hidden among the 10 slave nations that the world
is going to be divided into under Rome's plans, and after she (Rome) is anhihilated
by the Beast to come, and the 10 become 7, directly under him.

Therefore, "the worst possible form of government," (democracy) according to the armed
forces training manual of 1928.  "Always leads to autocracy . . ."  Witness
Hitler's rise to power.  Dr. Crane suggested that the world "tyrant" comes
from ancient Tyre, where a true democracy was tried.

We had democracies in America, in the "Old West," and in the "Deep South."
They were called "Lynch mobs."  The majority wanted to hang the guy, the
minority didn't want to get hung . . ."

"REPUBLICAN" believes the opposite: that the GOVERNMENT MUST OBEY THE LAW!  This
is the
exact opposite of Democracy, which recognizes absolutley nothing of individual
human rights.  (What ever the mob votes for is LAW).  A Republic demands that all
tyranny (mass tyranny or a single despot)  be held in check, by every means
possible, first of all that the Law (Constitution) MUST BE OBEYED, and treason
(the only crime by an individual ever mentioned in the Constitution) should be the IMMEDIATE
penalty of any person who even begins to oppose it.

It has been shown above, that if you vote for Obama, YOU ARE COMMITTING TREASON!
("Giving aid and comfort to an enemy in time of war" --- and if you aren't aware that we are at war, you
have no business voting at all)

When I went to school, I pledged allegiance "to the flag, and to the REPUBLIC
for which it stands."  I thought, until now, that most Americans did likewise.

Therefore, we have no republicans any more whatever, on the national scene,
except for a few hidden ones like Bob Barr and Chuck Baldwin --- the latter of
whom I reluctantly voted for, since I wanted to vote for both of them.

Bush, of course, in setting up our new gestapoes with all the rest of the
Clinton/Bush/Obama/Media/FederalReserveEtc,  regime, is no more Republican
than he is a Christian: or is it the other way around?

[These new gestapoes, eg "Homeland Security," FEMA, etc, clearly have the power and purpose of being among the many tools the conspirators will have,
       to accomplish the above mentioned murder of 90% of the world's population.  Look up "Prescott Bush" on the Internet.]

One good thing I saw "democrats" advocatiing was that they intend to throw out

the "Patriot Act."  If I wasn't so sure that they are merely lying, here, that would
almost lead me to vote for them.


But as to the subject, your post, there is a real question about whether
"Christians would vote for Obama."  Oh, I'm sure some do.

Since we now have a national mentality that is


   That the 3 WTC buildings were caused to collapse, straight down into the
earth, by two Islamic hijacked commercial planes.

   That, among those few who see through that one, the Bush administration was
negligent  in allowing it to happen.

   That, among those few who see through that one, that the Bush administration
was not negligent, but deliberately planned and executed the crime.

   That, among those few who see through that one, that Clinton was Bush's
partner in planning the crime (or the other way around).

   That among those few who see that the crime had hundreds of people in and
around our government behind it, and Clinton and Bush were merely fronts
involved, . . .

Those people have massive power, and they are more and more openly
demonstrating it in the nonsense called "the present election."

Benjamin Frankliln, at the constitutional convention was asked, "Mr Franklin,
what kind of government have you given us?"  

And he answered, "A REPUBLIC, if you can keep it!"  

We have not kept it.  For decades, because of our godless trust in man (and
that is NOT what Christians, REAL CHRISTIANS do), Clinton was absolutely
right when he gleefully gloated that we are a nation of sheep, going blindly
to our slaughter.

With godless stupidity like that above, followed by something over 103% of
"Americans," there can be no hope otherwise.

Yet, "He that sitteth in the Heavens shall laugh . . ."  

The criminals behind
all this aren't too smart, either.


Christ Died to Save You

And Snow replied:

>You know.. short of mentioning the corrupt corporate owned Federal Reserve that
>rules the people by controlling the value of money,

[This only scratches the surface, regarding the Federal Reserve]

>that was simply the most

>brilliant post I've seen in a while.  I feel a lot of comfort in knowing that
>I do have brothers (and sisters) guarding knowledge of the truth.

And then he quoted the REAL Republican, Ron Paul:

>Having federal officials, whether judges, bureaucrats, or congressmen, impose a
>new definition of marriage on the people is an act of social engineering
>profoundly hostile to liberty. Our country's founders cherished liberty, not

>The moral and constitutional obligations of our representatives in Washington
>are to protect our liberty, not coddle the world, precipitating no-win wars,
>while bringing bankruptcy and economic turmoil to our people.

>I am absolutely opposed to a national ID card. This is a total contradiction of
>what a free society is all about. The purpose of government is to protect the
>secrecy and the privacy of all individuals, not the secrecy of government. We
>don't need a national ID card.

>War is never economically beneficial except for those in position to profit
>from war expenditures. Legitimate use of violence can only be that which is
>required in self-defense. I have never met anyone who did not support our
>troops. Sometimes, however, we hear accusations that someone or some group
>does not support the men and women serving in our Armed Forces. But this is
>pure demagoguery, and it is intellectually dishonest.

>Ron Paul

If we will listen to God, He will turn these terrible things around, at least until the coming Rapture.  (I believe Prophecy WILL be fulfilled, and some of them are terrible: but we who are His can escape the horrible foothills we are heading into today).  Some things indicated in His Word to us:

1.   1 Timothy 2:1-3 --- Therefore I exhort first of all that supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks be made for all men,  for kings and all who are in authority, that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and reverence. For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior,

We are helpless; but God (our Lord Jesus Christ) is far from being so.  And He is implying that we can continue being preserved (quiet and peaceable lives) by intelligent godly prayer.  That prayer, it seems to me, is directed at the salvation of the evildoers, rather than the natural hatred of them (our hearts are as wicked as theirs, Scripture tells us) that comes to us.  Richard Wurmbrandt brought about the salvation of some of his torturers by loving them.  Imagine the changes that can be made by the salvation of a few of the key and highly placed conspirators.  And pray also that they are protected --- these people will wipe out any of their own, as well as the rest of us, whom they suspect of getting out of line  I have learned and been persuaded that that's what happened to JFK.

2.   Woe is me if I preach not the Gospel!

      Knowing therefore the terror of the Lord, we are persuading men! --- 2 Corinthians 5:10-11

      That is all important, conspiracy or no conspiracy. It's what our own coming Judgment, which is far more important than our lot in this world, is all about.Contrary to what our commentators and pulpits like to teach us, that word "terror" is probably the exact meaning of the Greek phobos.  It's more serious than the things coming on the earth.  And as regarding #1 above, it should certainly go with our praying, there. And the Gospel also has the byproduct of opening men's eyes to the coming horrors on the earth, and of developing the correct philosophies that will aid in men choosing their rulers intelligently.  Wicked men gain power by wicked people.

3.   The lips of the wise spread knowledge: not so the heart of the fool.

      This is an addition to #2, including not only Gospel knowledge, but also secular knowledge.  Be among the few who know what's going on in the world.  Know that its god is satan!  "For we wrestle NOT against flesh and blood, but against spiritual wickedness in the heavenlies . . ."Study.  Communicate with "every creature."  But don't let secular knowledge push out Spiritual knowledge --- a very easy mistake to make.  Spiritual things are eternal in duration, and infinite in intensity.  Secular things are "not worthy to be compared."  And they are "but for a moment"  That knowledge will be essential if it comes to your having to face the ultimate, in this world. You NEED to be READY!